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		<title>By: David Herz</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/typography-tips-and-advice-for-graphic-design-students/comment-page-2/#comment-126599</link>
		<dc:creator>David Herz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You would think a column on type would allow comments in custom type, the likely readers here appreciating that the choice of type might say something about the person commenting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You would think a column on type would allow comments in custom type, the likely readers here appreciating that the choice of type might say something about the person commenting.</p>
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		<title>By: Hedera Segnis</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/typography-tips-and-advice-for-graphic-design-students/comment-page-2/#comment-124806</link>
		<dc:creator>Hedera Segnis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

I was just on a directionless Google hunt for information about what I assume to be design projects or individual typography studies that I sometimes see students toting on campus or proudly affixing to a wall. The pieces feature single letters of the alphabet, either in upper or lower case, black printer ink on white paper (though I may have seen a few applications of liquid ink upon various media as well), mounted on black backboards. I suppose I just wanted to understand the name, purpose, and parameters of these assignments.  

In addition, this weekend I noticed a lowercase &quot;g&quot; - in the form of the g in the letter anatomy image above -applied to mounted canvas; one side of which was meticulously reinforced/bordered/finished with a few cascading strips of some heavy masking tape which seemed to create nice lines with the &quot;g&quot; present.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>I was just on a directionless Google hunt for information about what I assume to be design projects or individual typography studies that I sometimes see students toting on campus or proudly affixing to a wall. The pieces feature single letters of the alphabet, either in upper or lower case, black printer ink on white paper (though I may have seen a few applications of liquid ink upon various media as well), mounted on black backboards. I suppose I just wanted to understand the name, purpose, and parameters of these assignments.  </p>
<p>In addition, this weekend I noticed a lowercase &#8220;g&#8221; &#8211; in the form of the g in the letter anatomy image above -applied to mounted canvas; one side of which was meticulously reinforced/bordered/finished with a few cascading strips of some heavy masking tape which seemed to create nice lines with the &#8220;g&#8221; present.</p>
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		<title>By: David Airey</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/typography-tips-and-advice-for-graphic-design-students/comment-page-2/#comment-107453</link>
		<dc:creator>David Airey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.paratype.com/help/term/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;type terminology&lt;/a&gt; resource, Sigurdur. Thanks for divulging your secret, and all the very best for 2009!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great <a href="http://www.paratype.com/help/term/" rel="nofollow">type terminology</a> resource, Sigurdur. Thanks for divulging your secret, and all the very best for 2009!</p>
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		<title>By: Sigurdur Armannsson</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/typography-tips-and-advice-for-graphic-design-students/comment-page-2/#comment-106286</link>
		<dc:creator>Sigurdur Armannsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 23:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really nice work this type anatomy piece! I have been meaning to do something of this sort for a long time and I agree that it&#039;s not easy to find a solid and full collection of all the terms. And not any that does not conflict in one way or another with other sources. 

I was going to keep this as my secret but what the heck... in case you have not bumped into it yet, have a look at: http://www.paratype.com/help/term/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really nice work this type anatomy piece! I have been meaning to do something of this sort for a long time and I agree that it&#8217;s not easy to find a solid and full collection of all the terms. And not any that does not conflict in one way or another with other sources. </p>
<p>I was going to keep this as my secret but what the heck&#8230; in case you have not bumped into it yet, have a look at: <a href="http://www.paratype.com/help/term/" rel="nofollow">http://www.paratype.com/help/term/</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Airey</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/typography-tips-and-advice-for-graphic-design-students/comment-page-2/#comment-104164</link>
		<dc:creator>David Airey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and I do like your concertina piece. Very nice.

&lt;img src=&quot;http://th67.deviantart.com/fs33/300W/f/2008/292/4/5/Anatomy_of_Type___3_by_jfleck.jpg&quot;&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I do like your concertina piece. Very nice.</p>
<p><img src="http://th67.deviantart.com/fs33/300W/f/2008/292/4/5/Anatomy_of_Type___3_by_jfleck.jpg"/></p>
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		<title>By: David Airey</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/typography-tips-and-advice-for-graphic-design-students/comment-page-2/#comment-104163</link>
		<dc:creator>David Airey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jonathan,

Thanks for the thoughtful comment, and you&#039;re absolutely right about my CSS file. When recently changing to Helvetica, I didn&#039;t go so far as to change the other fonts to match. That&#039;s now taken care of.

I think as an actual result of reading your comment (I didn&#039;t have time to reply yesterday), last night I dreamt of returning to my student days, and having a conversation about the lack of attention to typography (at least that was my experience). Sorry to learn of the conflict you&#039;re discovering, but I&#039;m very glad you&#039;re enjoying the University of Ulster programme. It&#039;s one I&#039;ve little knowledge about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jonathan,</p>
<p>Thanks for the thoughtful comment, and you&#8217;re absolutely right about my CSS file. When recently changing to Helvetica, I didn&#8217;t go so far as to change the other fonts to match. That&#8217;s now taken care of.</p>
<p>I think as an actual result of reading your comment (I didn&#8217;t have time to reply yesterday), last night I dreamt of returning to my student days, and having a conversation about the lack of attention to typography (at least that was my experience). Sorry to learn of the conflict you&#8217;re discovering, but I&#8217;m very glad you&#8217;re enjoying the University of Ulster programme. It&#8217;s one I&#8217;ve little knowledge about.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 10:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David, having just completed my 3rd (1st year) design project on the anatomy of type—&lt;a href=&quot;http://jfleck.deviantart.com/art/The-Anatomy-of-Type-101052409&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a 26 panel concertina fold&lt;/a&gt;—I&#039;ve found that none of my sources covered every anatomical element, and sources often conflicted with other sources. The sources I used were: Thinking with Type (Lupton), Type &amp; Typography (Baines/Haslam), Graphic Design School (Dabner), ilovetypography.com, fonts.com (Monotype Imaging), about.com.

I see the anatomical diagram you have above continues this trend, and again, is incomplete, and contradictory to other sources. What&#039;s a VisComm student to do?! It was suggested that we rely more on printed books than websites, yet when the printed books contradict one another, then clearly there&#039;s something wrong somewhere!!

On a postive note, typography is a strong core element of this 1st year 1st semester course (viscomm @ uni of ulster belfast), and I&#039;m absolutely loving working intimately with type.

We watched the Helvetica film last week as well—great/funny quote from self confessed typomaniac Erik Spiekermann —&quot;They are my friends (type), some people like looking at bottles of wine or girls bottoms, I get a kick out of looking at type&quot;

Just to quote Adrian Frutiger:
&quot; If you remember the shape of your spoon at lunch,
it has to be the wrong shape.
The spoon and the letter are tools;
one to take food from the bowl,
the other to take information off the page...
When it is a good design, the reader has to feel comfortable
because the letter is both banal and beautiful. &quot;

Btw, just noticed on your body &#039;font family list&#039;, you have &quot;Helvetica,Verdana,Georgia,Sans-serif&quot;. If Helvetica is the look you&#039;re going for, might it be worthwhile actually having Arial in the list after Helvetica, instead of Verdana, as Arial shares the same proportions as Helvetica, being effectively a ripoff. I know Arial is a scourge of the design world, but it is basically Windows &#039;default version&#039; of Helvetica, rather than Verdana (which is ok, but changes the look of your site significantly).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David, having just completed my 3rd (1st year) design project on the anatomy of type—<a href="http://jfleck.deviantart.com/art/The-Anatomy-of-Type-101052409" rel="nofollow">a 26 panel concertina fold</a>—I&#8217;ve found that none of my sources covered every anatomical element, and sources often conflicted with other sources. The sources I used were: Thinking with Type (Lupton), Type &amp; Typography (Baines/Haslam), Graphic Design School (Dabner), ilovetypography.com, fonts.com (Monotype Imaging), about.com.</p>
<p>I see the anatomical diagram you have above continues this trend, and again, is incomplete, and contradictory to other sources. What&#8217;s a VisComm student to do?! It was suggested that we rely more on printed books than websites, yet when the printed books contradict one another, then clearly there&#8217;s something wrong somewhere!!</p>
<p>On a postive note, typography is a strong core element of this 1st year 1st semester course (viscomm @ uni of ulster belfast), and I&#8217;m absolutely loving working intimately with type.</p>
<p>We watched the Helvetica film last week as well—great/funny quote from self confessed typomaniac Erik Spiekermann —&#8221;They are my friends (type), some people like looking at bottles of wine or girls bottoms, I get a kick out of looking at type&#8221;</p>
<p>Just to quote Adrian Frutiger:<br />
&#8221; If you remember the shape of your spoon at lunch,<br />
it has to be the wrong shape.<br />
The spoon and the letter are tools;<br />
one to take food from the bowl,<br />
the other to take information off the page&#8230;<br />
When it is a good design, the reader has to feel comfortable<br />
because the letter is both banal and beautiful. &#8221;</p>
<p>Btw, just noticed on your body &#8216;font family list&#8217;, you have &#8220;Helvetica,Verdana,Georgia,Sans-serif&#8221;. If Helvetica is the look you&#8217;re going for, might it be worthwhile actually having Arial in the list after Helvetica, instead of Verdana, as Arial shares the same proportions as Helvetica, being effectively a ripoff. I know Arial is a scourge of the design world, but it is basically Windows &#8216;default version&#8217; of Helvetica, rather than Verdana (which is ok, but changes the look of your site significantly).</p>
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		<title>By: Burak Önal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Burak Önal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I never learnt typography. I picked up a copy of tutorial from my book shop.. Yt to start it… [...]

&lt;em&gt;Burak Önal&#039;s last blog post...&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nettim.net/gundem/googledan-wikipediaya-rakip.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Google’dan Wikipedia’ya rakip&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I never learnt typography. I picked up a copy of tutorial from my book shop.. Yt to start it… [...]</p>
<p><em>Burak Önal&#8217;s last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://www.nettim.net/gundem/googledan-wikipediaya-rakip.html" rel="nofollow">Google’dan Wikipedia’ya rakip</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Color Printing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Color Printing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 06:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article. Just picked up the book you recommended on Amazon &quot;About Face.&quot; This should be a great read and a great addition to my design arsenal.

I laughed when I read Papyrus! Papyrus and Comic Sans are very over used. Luckily I don&#039;t see it often coming from professionals. Just the self-proclaimed designers with MS Publisher at their fingertips. =).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. Just picked up the book you recommended on Amazon &#8220;About Face.&#8221; This should be a great read and a great addition to my design arsenal.</p>
<p>I laughed when I read Papyrus! Papyrus and Comic Sans are very over used. Luckily I don&#8217;t see it often coming from professionals. Just the self-proclaimed designers with MS Publisher at their fingertips. =).</p>
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		<title>By: David Airey</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Airey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah ok. I thought you were pointing out a contradiction in my article. Thanks for clarifying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah ok. I thought you were pointing out a contradiction in my article. Thanks for clarifying.</p>
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