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		<title>By: David Airey</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/musings-on-book-writing/comment-page-2/#comment-124480</link>
		<dc:creator>David Airey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is too late to have an influence, Chris, as I&#039;m tying up the final details and working through the final copy editing stages. My book will, however, focus on the process of identity design, and shows a lot of different projects—from many talented designers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is too late to have an influence, Chris, as I&#8217;m tying up the final details and working through the final copy editing stages. My book will, however, focus on the process of identity design, and shows a lot of different projects—from many talented designers.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s probably very late to give my view (considering i&#039;ve read a few posts mentioning how far you are with the book...

but i don&#039;t own any logo books, and would probably never buy a &quot;normal&quot; one.with a book (even an informational one) I like it to spark my imagination, and teach me something, and I think one way of doing that for me with logos, would be a page detailing the brief so we know what you&#039;ve got to do, a few pages of sketches, then the finished logo, missing out the middle steps.   

the process would be different for many people, but looking at the ideas which form out of a brief would be great, then seeing the finished logo, and having to work out WHY that one was chosen (even finding the sketch it was based on).   I think that would help show me how your mind works when you work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s probably very late to give my view (considering i&#8217;ve read a few posts mentioning how far you are with the book&#8230;</p>
<p>but i don&#8217;t own any logo books, and would probably never buy a &#8220;normal&#8221; one.with a book (even an informational one) I like it to spark my imagination, and teach me something, and I think one way of doing that for me with logos, would be a page detailing the brief so we know what you&#8217;ve got to do, a few pages of sketches, then the finished logo, missing out the middle steps.   </p>
<p>the process would be different for many people, but looking at the ideas which form out of a brief would be great, then seeing the finished logo, and having to work out WHY that one was chosen (even finding the sketch it was based on).   I think that would help show me how your mind works when you work.</p>
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		<title>By: David Airey</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/musings-on-book-writing/comment-page-2/#comment-110502</link>
		<dc:creator>David Airey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marcus,

I shall indeed be omitting Illustrator screenshots. A few others have suggested I do so, and I&#039;m in agreement. Thanks very much for your kind words and encouragement.

Dennis,

That&#039;s great to know. There&#039;ll be an upcoming blog post with more definite book contents. If you have time, it&#039;d be good to know what you think once it&#039;s published.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcus,</p>
<p>I shall indeed be omitting Illustrator screenshots. A few others have suggested I do so, and I&#8217;m in agreement. Thanks very much for your kind words and encouragement.</p>
<p>Dennis,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s great to know. There&#8217;ll be an upcoming blog post with more definite book contents. If you have time, it&#8217;d be good to know what you think once it&#8217;s published.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/musings-on-book-writing/comment-page-2/#comment-110450</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 08:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have quite a few Peachpit books including Robert Hoekman&#039;s Designing the Moment which was useful. I would find a logo design book that presented the creative process useful as well. There are already plenty (read: too many) books that show how to use software but few that detail the iterative thinking and process that goes into logo design. If you can find the time and inspiration I would suggest you go for it. I&#039;m a buyer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have quite a few Peachpit books including Robert Hoekman&#8217;s Designing the Moment which was useful. I would find a logo design book that presented the creative process useful as well. There are already plenty (read: too many) books that show how to use software but few that detail the iterative thinking and process that goes into logo design. If you can find the time and inspiration I would suggest you go for it. I&#8217;m a buyer.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus Dally-Law</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus Dally-Law</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 07:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently spoke to a friend about commissioning a logo design. A day and a half after putting in the request, he received fifteen possible logos, most of which looked like bad clipart. When I had a conversation with the designer on his behalf, I learned that his creative process was to sit on Illustrator and churn out as many ideas as he could to send to the client.

I applaud the idea of your book. I would suggest omitting Illustrator instructions and screenshots - for software manuals are easy to find and often comprehensive. Developing an effective client brief, doing market research, using sketching or other methods to develop concepts and then followthrough with delivery and ongoing communication with clients are amazing skills which I think you are immensely qualified to pass on to young designers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently spoke to a friend about commissioning a logo design. A day and a half after putting in the request, he received fifteen possible logos, most of which looked like bad clipart. When I had a conversation with the designer on his behalf, I learned that his creative process was to sit on Illustrator and churn out as many ideas as he could to send to the client.</p>
<p>I applaud the idea of your book. I would suggest omitting Illustrator instructions and screenshots &#8211; for software manuals are easy to find and often comprehensive. Developing an effective client brief, doing market research, using sketching or other methods to develop concepts and then followthrough with delivery and ongoing communication with clients are amazing skills which I think you are immensely qualified to pass on to young designers.</p>
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		<title>By: David Airey</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/musings-on-book-writing/comment-page-2/#comment-110362</link>
		<dc:creator>David Airey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hector, Nikhil, Jonathan,

Thanks for commenting. Since publishing this post I&#039;ve been busy working on a table of contents and contacting some iconic logo designers. So far so good, and I&#039;ll write an update for my blog sometime soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hector, Nikhil, Jonathan,</p>
<p>Thanks for commenting. Since publishing this post I&#8217;ve been busy working on a table of contents and contacting some iconic logo designers. So far so good, and I&#8217;ll write an update for my blog sometime soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Fleck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Fleck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 23:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David, It may have been mentioned already, but a strong USP for me would be relatively substantial detail on process, eg, research/observation, mind mapping, thumbnailing, development, through to final designs &amp; presentation. Perhaps it may be helpful to do this in context of a comprehensive case stuy, from start to finish. I think this alone would be a tremendous help and insight to beginning designers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David, It may have been mentioned already, but a strong USP for me would be relatively substantial detail on process, eg, research/observation, mind mapping, thumbnailing, development, through to final designs &amp; presentation. Perhaps it may be helpful to do this in context of a comprehensive case stuy, from start to finish. I think this alone would be a tremendous help and insight to beginning designers.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikhil Shahane</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/musings-on-book-writing/comment-page-2/#comment-110121</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikhil Shahane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, I&#039;m not 100% sure I&#039;ll buy a logo design book. I&#039;ve been through a few at my local bookstore, and most of them are just a large collection of logos.

As previously mentioned by some people, it&#039;s fine for a quick reference, but for those interested in the nuances of logo design or the &#039;behind the screens&#039;, most of these books are fairly unhelpful.

However, if your book is anything like your blog posts, you&#039;ve got one customer in me. 
I really do hope you write the book and do it in your current style.

While I don&#039;t particularly mind not being spoon fed, even though I absolutely love it, I&#039;d much rather be enlightened. Which you really do help with when you write your blog posts.

All the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, I&#8217;m not 100% sure I&#8217;ll buy a logo design book. I&#8217;ve been through a few at my local bookstore, and most of them are just a large collection of logos.</p>
<p>As previously mentioned by some people, it&#8217;s fine for a quick reference, but for those interested in the nuances of logo design or the &#8216;behind the screens&#8217;, most of these books are fairly unhelpful.</p>
<p>However, if your book is anything like your blog posts, you&#8217;ve got one customer in me.<br />
I really do hope you write the book and do it in your current style.</p>
<p>While I don&#8217;t particularly mind not being spoon fed, even though I absolutely love it, I&#8217;d much rather be enlightened. Which you really do help with when you write your blog posts.</p>
<p>All the best.</p>
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		<title>By: Hector</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to say, I&#039;ll definately buy such a book if it ever appears! I have a shelf full of logo design books but really, they tend to avoid the subject of planning/brainstorming and what works and what doesn&#039;t. I hope yours will be an exception.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to say, I&#8217;ll definately buy such a book if it ever appears! I have a shelf full of logo design books but really, they tend to avoid the subject of planning/brainstorming and what works and what doesn&#8217;t. I hope yours will be an exception.</p>
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		<title>By: David Airey</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Airey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

The target audience is certainly an important factor. The book is to be aimed at a wide logo audience, from those involved with their design, to those curious about how they&#039;re created (much like the hoped-for audience on Logo Design Love).

Thanks for offering those three possible directions, and you&#039;re right about the design control — Peachpit can set-up a design template based upon a sample chapter I provide them with, which is great.

Ben,

I appreciate you backing me up about the screenshots. I&#039;ll not be using any.

Jason,

I&#039;ll be working with Peachpit on this one, provided they offer me a contract (nothing has been agreed upon as yet). That&#039;ll hopefully avoid those publishing issues you mention.

Cat,

Thanks very much. Writing a book wouldn&#039;t be for any earnings made from the sale, but rather as an extra avenue to educate and promote good design practice. Nikki, at Peachpit, has been great with me so far, and that definitely helps with my decision to use a respected publisher.

Dawn, Nigel, Armin, Dainis, Chaitanya

Good of you all to leave some feedback, thanks very much.

Thomas,

Some great books mentioned there, no doubt. I&#039;ll have to flip through my collection for some inspiration.

James,

First time I&#039;ve heard that actually (about publishing houses black-listing you).

Mark,

All valuable pointers there. I&#039;m sure I can learn a great deal through working with a publisher, especially where editing is concerned. The last time I wrote anything of great length was for my disseration, many years ago, and I didn&#039;t score too highly!

Tony,

That&#039;s an interesting idea, mixing the content up like that. I&#039;ll have to give the layout quite a lot of thought.

Cirilo,

Thanks for your ideas. I&#039;m a big advocate of helping non-profits / local charities, so yours is another factor to give thought to. Cheers buddy.

Shawn,

Having to spend most of my working day reading from a computer screen really helps me appreciate the printed page. Definitely one of my considerations when thinking about a book.

Thanks again for everyone&#039;s continued feedback. Great stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>The target audience is certainly an important factor. The book is to be aimed at a wide logo audience, from those involved with their design, to those curious about how they&#8217;re created (much like the hoped-for audience on Logo Design Love).</p>
<p>Thanks for offering those three possible directions, and you&#8217;re right about the design control — Peachpit can set-up a design template based upon a sample chapter I provide them with, which is great.</p>
<p>Ben,</p>
<p>I appreciate you backing me up about the screenshots. I&#8217;ll not be using any.</p>
<p>Jason,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be working with Peachpit on this one, provided they offer me a contract (nothing has been agreed upon as yet). That&#8217;ll hopefully avoid those publishing issues you mention.</p>
<p>Cat,</p>
<p>Thanks very much. Writing a book wouldn&#8217;t be for any earnings made from the sale, but rather as an extra avenue to educate and promote good design practice. Nikki, at Peachpit, has been great with me so far, and that definitely helps with my decision to use a respected publisher.</p>
<p>Dawn, Nigel, Armin, Dainis, Chaitanya</p>
<p>Good of you all to leave some feedback, thanks very much.</p>
<p>Thomas,</p>
<p>Some great books mentioned there, no doubt. I&#8217;ll have to flip through my collection for some inspiration.</p>
<p>James,</p>
<p>First time I&#8217;ve heard that actually (about publishing houses black-listing you).</p>
<p>Mark,</p>
<p>All valuable pointers there. I&#8217;m sure I can learn a great deal through working with a publisher, especially where editing is concerned. The last time I wrote anything of great length was for my disseration, many years ago, and I didn&#8217;t score too highly!</p>
<p>Tony,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s an interesting idea, mixing the content up like that. I&#8217;ll have to give the layout quite a lot of thought.</p>
<p>Cirilo,</p>
<p>Thanks for your ideas. I&#8217;m a big advocate of helping non-profits / local charities, so yours is another factor to give thought to. Cheers buddy.</p>
<p>Shawn,</p>
<p>Having to spend most of my working day reading from a computer screen really helps me appreciate the printed page. Definitely one of my considerations when thinking about a book.</p>
<p>Thanks again for everyone&#8217;s continued feedback. Great stuff.</p>
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