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	<title>Comments on: Giacom brand identity design</title>
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	<description>David is a graphic designer passionate about brand identity. Here&#039;s his portfolio and a wonderful community of 15,000+ designers reading his blog.</description>
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		<title>By: David Airey</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/logo-design-for-giacom/comment-page-2/#comment-127015</link>
		<dc:creator>David Airey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 13:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rob, it can be difficult to readily accept client requests, especially if you&#039;re particularly keen on an idea you&#039;ve generated. But like you say, the work is almost always better with intelligent client input, and I&#039;ve just completed another project where the client really helped improve the outcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rob, it can be difficult to readily accept client requests, especially if you&#8217;re particularly keen on an idea you&#8217;ve generated. But like you say, the work is almost always better with intelligent client input, and I&#8217;ve just completed another project where the client really helped improve the outcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/logo-design-for-giacom/comment-page-2/#comment-126986</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 21:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I admire your positive attitude toward client suggestions and changes, David. I think the Giacom logo benefited from the give and take. I must admit that when clients make suggestions, to this day a voice in my head screams I AM THE DESIGNER DAMMIT! But I&#039;ve come to learn and accept that the work is almost always better when client feedback is folded into the batter. Did your flexibility regarding client input come naturally to you, or did you have to develop it? Do you not have that voice in your head? Is it because I&#039;m from New Jersey? :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admire your positive attitude toward client suggestions and changes, David. I think the Giacom logo benefited from the give and take. I must admit that when clients make suggestions, to this day a voice in my head screams I AM THE DESIGNER DAMMIT! But I&#8217;ve come to learn and accept that the work is almost always better when client feedback is folded into the batter. Did your flexibility regarding client input come naturally to you, or did you have to develop it? Do you not have that voice in your head? Is it because I&#8217;m from New Jersey? :-)</p>
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		<title>By: David Airey</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/logo-design-for-giacom/comment-page-2/#comment-125747</link>
		<dc:creator>David Airey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Colm,

It&#039;s standard practice for companies to state ownership of all employee work for the duration of employment, but you should check the contract you signed.

When I start work with a new client, I make it clear I will use any designs for self-promotion (i.e., in a portfolio or book). As you were paid such a meagre amount, I doubt your employer would begrudge you the use of designs to promote your skills.

Sorry to know of the ill health and your course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Colm,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s standard practice for companies to state ownership of all employee work for the duration of employment, but you should check the contract you signed.</p>
<p>When I start work with a new client, I make it clear I will use any designs for self-promotion (i.e., in a portfolio or book). As you were paid such a meagre amount, I doubt your employer would begrudge you the use of designs to promote your skills.</p>
<p>Sorry to know of the ill health and your course.</p>
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		<title>By: Colm</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/logo-design-for-giacom/comment-page-2/#comment-125591</link>
		<dc:creator>Colm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 04:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi david, great design for the communications corporation really cool crisp and has real global appeal.

My question is simple
(brief background)
about 6 years ago I studied a Design degree  that took in all or most design fields, due to failing health i had to pull out of the degree after one year. In this time I achieved the highest marks ever recorded on the course but this achievement is openended.

(present)

Anyway years pass I have ability but no formal degree or paper to certify my talent.  I recently started a 13+ week &#039;back to work programme&#039;  a government initiaitive. I was looking to get a placement within a thriving graphics studio but ended up working for the actual outsourced company that  try to find placements and offer skills etc...

in the 13-14 weeks I have designed 4 graphic identities for the various programes and new ventures this company runs ironically about getting back to work I produced posters and helped with their website.  I have used only my own photographs within the posters all the logos my own designs.

i am proud of the work I  have produced , some all or most of the logos look like corporate identities with hidden meanings ect that communicate more the more they are viewed.

I was paid the standard  automated £15 each week that is all, nothing more. I have had no proper briefs or consolations.

these identies are really strong the posters all my own work and of a high standard  they have got them for next to nothing. I made up clever bylines that work so well with the graphics.

(My questions)

&#039;&#039;Do I have any rights over the designs the logos especially, their future use or are they  wholly the companies property? &#039;&#039;  

what rights as a designer do I have, i Know photographers have rights over all their work so you clients have to pay for further prints. 

I feel I am been taken advantaged of, I have even designed another very strong logo for a utility company owned by a boyfriend of a employee of the employment  programme company of which am placed.  All with no real clear brief or meetings with clients.

prior to me they said they had not advertisements or any graphic or artistic element within the company but now that I am coming to the end of my placement they dont seem to be willing to take me on full time or even partime It seems when my time runs out i will leave on the most part sqeezed dry of my design work with nothing to show for it but strong deigns that will enhance the company but atleast thats something positve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi david, great design for the communications corporation really cool crisp and has real global appeal.</p>
<p>My question is simple<br />
(brief background)<br />
about 6 years ago I studied a Design degree  that took in all or most design fields, due to failing health i had to pull out of the degree after one year. In this time I achieved the highest marks ever recorded on the course but this achievement is openended.</p>
<p>(present)</p>
<p>Anyway years pass I have ability but no formal degree or paper to certify my talent.  I recently started a 13+ week &#8216;back to work programme&#8217;  a government initiaitive. I was looking to get a placement within a thriving graphics studio but ended up working for the actual outsourced company that  try to find placements and offer skills etc&#8230;</p>
<p>in the 13-14 weeks I have designed 4 graphic identities for the various programes and new ventures this company runs ironically about getting back to work I produced posters and helped with their website.  I have used only my own photographs within the posters all the logos my own designs.</p>
<p>i am proud of the work I  have produced , some all or most of the logos look like corporate identities with hidden meanings ect that communicate more the more they are viewed.</p>
<p>I was paid the standard  automated £15 each week that is all, nothing more. I have had no proper briefs or consolations.</p>
<p>these identies are really strong the posters all my own work and of a high standard  they have got them for next to nothing. I made up clever bylines that work so well with the graphics.</p>
<p>(My questions)</p>
<p>&#8221;Do I have any rights over the designs the logos especially, their future use or are they  wholly the companies property? &#8221;  </p>
<p>what rights as a designer do I have, i Know photographers have rights over all their work so you clients have to pay for further prints. </p>
<p>I feel I am been taken advantaged of, I have even designed another very strong logo for a utility company owned by a boyfriend of a employee of the employment  programme company of which am placed.  All with no real clear brief or meetings with clients.</p>
<p>prior to me they said they had not advertisements or any graphic or artistic element within the company but now that I am coming to the end of my placement they dont seem to be willing to take me on full time or even partime It seems when my time runs out i will leave on the most part sqeezed dry of my design work with nothing to show for it but strong deigns that will enhance the company but atleast thats something positve</p>
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		<title>By: Ema</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/logo-design-for-giacom/comment-page-2/#comment-119289</link>
		<dc:creator>Ema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great inspiration...  I love the work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great inspiration&#8230;  I love the work</p>
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		<title>By: yahv</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/logo-design-for-giacom/comment-page-2/#comment-117115</link>
		<dc:creator>yahv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, 

I enjoy the simplicity of your designs, i like the design that you settled on the best, but I dont like how it was mplemented in the web. That banner is way too big, and just SQUASHES it up in the corner... It does your elegant work NO justice. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, </p>
<p>I enjoy the simplicity of your designs, i like the design that you settled on the best, but I dont like how it was mplemented in the web. That banner is way too big, and just SQUASHES it up in the corner&#8230; It does your elegant work NO justice. :D</p>
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		<title>By: Mahijeet Singh</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/logo-design-for-giacom/comment-page-2/#comment-116253</link>
		<dc:creator>Mahijeet Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great work! Thanks for sharing david....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great work! Thanks for sharing david&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: M.K</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/logo-design-for-giacom/comment-page-2/#comment-114936</link>
		<dc:creator>M.K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not good but super work..... :D Giacom logo is good, its tips seems quite understand for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not good but super work&#8230;.. :D Giacom logo is good, its tips seems quite understand for us.</p>
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		<title>By: David Airey</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/logo-design-for-giacom/comment-page-2/#comment-110884</link>
		<dc:creator>David Airey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tania,

To answer your question, it&#039;s not necessary for a logo to literally define the business. It&#039;s interesting that you see a mouse in the symbol. I didn&#039;t get that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tania,</p>
<p>To answer your question, it&#8217;s not necessary for a logo to literally define the business. It&#8217;s interesting that you see a mouse in the symbol. I didn&#8217;t get that.</p>
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		<title>By: Tania</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 05:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi david,

I&#039;d like to know a certain thing : Is it very important to always have a logo that defines the kind of business the company does?

for example the &quot; G &quot; here appealed to me as a shape of a mouse as well as a &quot;G&quot;.
and the tag connecting to your world went perfectly with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi david,</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to know a certain thing : Is it very important to always have a logo that defines the kind of business the company does?</p>
<p>for example the &#8221; G &#8221; here appealed to me as a shape of a mouse as well as a &#8220;G&#8221;.<br />
and the tag connecting to your world went perfectly with it.</p>
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