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	<title>Comments on: Design pricing and when to talk money</title>
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	<description>Graphic and logo designer based in Edinburgh, UK, with a passion for logo design.</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: David Airey</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/how-much-logo-design-cost/#comment-95703</link>
		<dc:creator>David Airey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 14:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cazza,

You're very welcome! Best wishes with your new self-employment. I hope it all goes excellently, and I'm very glad some of the content here has helped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cazza,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re very welcome! Best wishes with your new self-employment. I hope it all goes excellently, and I&#8217;m very glad some of the content here has helped.</p>
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		<title>By: Cazza</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/how-much-logo-design-cost/#comment-95648</link>
		<dc:creator>Cazza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 03:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee whizz. This is my BIGGEST issue. Pricing. 

I am extremely new in this whole business thing, in fact, I just got my business number about 2 weeks ago. I have, in the past, done projects for people as a freelancer - luckily i havent had problems, instead i've had really positive feedback. BUT....

I've been put into a position (moving interstate) where I'm finding it really hard getting "work" work. As in, full time, part time work. Which is why I have started up my own business. But previously always working for someone else, and really, being quite peeved off with my salary, I just didn't/don't have a clue where to start. I think I have heavily underestimated my own worth, example being I did 4 coffee cup designs including a logo re-set... (2 were just, "put-this-here" on this color) the other two were "whatever idea you want lass". I ended up charging AUD$200  Which is probably something ridiculous when it comes to pounds where you are...... 

Your posts and all of these replies are really helping me figure out how to price jobs. Although being in such a desperate time for money, I think I am also down-pricing because i really *need* the work. 

Thanks for an AWESOME site. You have already helped me heaps ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee whizz. This is my BIGGEST issue. Pricing. </p>
<p>I am extremely new in this whole business thing, in fact, I just got my business number about 2 weeks ago. I have, in the past, done projects for people as a freelancer - luckily i havent had problems, instead i&#8217;ve had really positive feedback. BUT&#8230;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been put into a position (moving interstate) where I&#8217;m finding it really hard getting &#8220;work&#8221; work. As in, full time, part time work. Which is why I have started up my own business. But previously always working for someone else, and really, being quite peeved off with my salary, I just didn&#8217;t/don&#8217;t have a clue where to start. I think I have heavily underestimated my own worth, example being I did 4 coffee cup designs including a logo re-set&#8230; (2 were just, &#8220;put-this-here&#8221; on this color) the other two were &#8220;whatever idea you want lass&#8221;. I ended up charging AUD$200  Which is probably something ridiculous when it comes to pounds where you are&#8230;&#8230; </p>
<p>Your posts and all of these replies are really helping me figure out how to price jobs. Although being in such a desperate time for money, I think I am also down-pricing because i really *need* the work. </p>
<p>Thanks for an AWESOME site. You have already helped me heaps ;)</p>
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		<title>By: David Airey</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/how-much-logo-design-cost/#comment-73981</link>
		<dc:creator>David Airey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're very welcome, Mei.

Good luck with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re very welcome, Mei.</p>
<p>Good luck with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mei</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/how-much-logo-design-cost/#comment-73976</link>
		<dc:creator>Mei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks David, agree with you just that no one has paid me that much yet as I am pretty much doing pro-bono work for organizations that I volunteer with and for the church. Will research a little to find out what should be a suitable price range to put in the drop down list. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks David, agree with you just that no one has paid me that much yet as I am pretty much doing pro-bono work for organizations that I volunteer with and for the church. Will research a little to find out what should be a suitable price range to put in the drop down list. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: David Airey</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/how-much-logo-design-cost/#comment-73966</link>
		<dc:creator>David Airey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mei,

I had a look at your design questionnaire, and notice that you don't charge any more than $1,000 for a job. I think you're ruling out larger projects by limiting yourself in this way. Do you agree?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mei,</p>
<p>I had a look at your design questionnaire, and notice that you don&#8217;t charge any more than $1,000 for a job. I think you&#8217;re ruling out larger projects by limiting yourself in this way. Do you agree?</p>
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		<title>By: Mei</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/how-much-logo-design-cost/#comment-73904</link>
		<dc:creator>Mei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 06:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, am very glad to come across this post as I have just implemented a design survey on my blog and the last question is about price. Although I am very much just starting out in designing, but I feel that it is important to at least get the message across to people that they have to think about the design (i.e. no specs sort of work is not welcomed) and also to know that I will be charging for it.

Had my design survey done through Wufoo, glad to know if there is any better survey template around. Mine is on this page 
http://cluelessclay.com/blog/design-survey/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, am very glad to come across this post as I have just implemented a design survey on my blog and the last question is about price. Although I am very much just starting out in designing, but I feel that it is important to at least get the message across to people that they have to think about the design (i.e. no specs sort of work is not welcomed) and also to know that I will be charging for it.</p>
<p>Had my design survey done through Wufoo, glad to know if there is any better survey template around. Mine is on this page<br />
<a href="http://cluelessclay.com/blog/design-survey/" rel="nofollow">http://cluelessclay.com/blog/design-survey/</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Airey</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/how-much-logo-design-cost/#comment-68470</link>
		<dc:creator>David Airey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amanda,

You mention that you don't give the price in the first email unless the client specifically asks. It's good that you prefer to wait, but on the other hand, how can you give a price so fast without knowing much about the project?

I totally agree with you about the many other factors that should persuade a client to hire you. Price is only one piece of the design puzzle.

Cat,

That's a great idea to add an extra option to the 'drop-down', one for 'Don't know, please advise'. I'll have to implement that. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda,</p>
<p>You mention that you don&#8217;t give the price in the first email unless the client specifically asks. It&#8217;s good that you prefer to wait, but on the other hand, how can you give a price so fast without knowing much about the project?</p>
<p>I totally agree with you about the many other factors that should persuade a client to hire you. Price is only one piece of the design puzzle.</p>
<p>Cat,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a great idea to add an extra option to the &#8216;drop-down&#8217;, one for &#8216;Don&#8217;t know, please advise&#8217;. I&#8217;ll have to implement that. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: cat</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/how-much-logo-design-cost/#comment-67145</link>
		<dc:creator>cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 07:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For years at Creative Latitude we wrangled with putting prices on sites. We felt it was just meaningless really, as every project was different. Even logo projects seemed to have quirks in the pricing by the time they shook out.

Instead of putting set prices, a drop down range on an online form would work. Then right away you know if there's a fit. Or not. And no one wastes their time.

Of course, first time clients never seem to know what they can afford. So having a 'don't know please advise' option would be beneficial too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For years at Creative Latitude we wrangled with putting prices on sites. We felt it was just meaningless really, as every project was different. Even logo projects seemed to have quirks in the pricing by the time they shook out.</p>
<p>Instead of putting set prices, a drop down range on an online form would work. Then right away you know if there&#8217;s a fit. Or not. And no one wastes their time.</p>
<p>Of course, first time clients never seem to know what they can afford. So having a &#8216;don&#8217;t know please advise&#8217; option would be beneficial too.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda Vlahakis</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/how-much-logo-design-cost/#comment-66381</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda Vlahakis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also can't meet face to face with my clients and so am forced to build relationships via email.

One reason is that they are all around the country and travelling for visits would hike my prices up too high for a sme, and some obviously are overseas. But the biggest reason is that I have children with me all day, so definitely can't do even local meetings :)

I don't tend to give the price in the first email unless they specifically as for the price. Instead I focus on getting to know the client and their aspirations so that it's clear that I'm not a 'wham bam thank you mam' type of service ;)

Later on I discuss prices for 'the job' but never ever give my hourly rate unless specifically asked. I agree that this can make them think "How much!?" 

I don't want those thoughts running round their minds and I don't want to have to justify my hourly rate in detail by giving them a run down of expenses and service factors and what not.

Out of interest someone did ask very recently, only last week I believe, which I think is the first person to ever ask, and when I told them they did seem to feel my prices were high, but it didn't stop them going ahead anyway with quite a sizeable project.

Once the first project was half way through, she started signing up for more. Clearly feeling that the hourly rate was justified.

I don't think we should fear too much revealing prices or rates, few customers  buy on price alone, there are many other deciding factors aside from this.

&lt;em&gt;Amanda Vlahakis's last blog post..&lt;a href='http://trulyace.com/blog/?p=93' rel="nofollow"&gt;Online Businesses On ‘The Cheap’ - RANT&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also can&#8217;t meet face to face with my clients and so am forced to build relationships via email.</p>
<p>One reason is that they are all around the country and travelling for visits would hike my prices up too high for a sme, and some obviously are overseas. But the biggest reason is that I have children with me all day, so definitely can&#8217;t do even local meetings :)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t tend to give the price in the first email unless they specifically as for the price. Instead I focus on getting to know the client and their aspirations so that it&#8217;s clear that I&#8217;m not a &#8216;wham bam thank you mam&#8217; type of service ;)</p>
<p>Later on I discuss prices for &#8216;the job&#8217; but never ever give my hourly rate unless specifically asked. I agree that this can make them think &#8220;How much!?&#8221; </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want those thoughts running round their minds and I don&#8217;t want to have to justify my hourly rate in detail by giving them a run down of expenses and service factors and what not.</p>
<p>Out of interest someone did ask very recently, only last week I believe, which I think is the first person to ever ask, and when I told them they did seem to feel my prices were high, but it didn&#8217;t stop them going ahead anyway with quite a sizeable project.</p>
<p>Once the first project was half way through, she started signing up for more. Clearly feeling that the hourly rate was justified.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think we should fear too much revealing prices or rates, few customers  buy on price alone, there are many other deciding factors aside from this.</p>
<p><em>Amanda Vlahakis&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://trulyace.com/blog/?p=93' rel="nofollow">Online Businesses On ‘The Cheap’ - RANT</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: David Airey</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Airey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Brian,

Ah I see. I thought that as the comment URI links were 'nofollow', that they'd bring no search engine benefit, and I've read how other blog authors become wary of the commenter when they use specific anchor text with no name.

That said, I appreciate your responses, and it's nice to be able to reply mentioning your name.

Glad you enjoy the blog posts, and if you have any ideas or suggestions feel free to get in touch.

Bye for now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brian,</p>
<p>Ah I see. I thought that as the comment URI links were &#8216;nofollow&#8217;, that they&#8217;d bring no search engine benefit, and I&#8217;ve read how other blog authors become wary of the commenter when they use specific anchor text with no name.</p>
<p>That said, I appreciate your responses, and it&#8217;s nice to be able to reply mentioning your name.</p>
<p>Glad you enjoy the blog posts, and if you have any ideas or suggestions feel free to get in touch.</p>
<p>Bye for now.</p>
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