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	<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: David Airey</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/choosing-a-logo-designer/#comment-103929</link>
		<dc:creator>David Airey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vivienne,

Thanks for your addition, and how very true. Enjoy the weekend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vivienne,</p>
<p>Thanks for your addition, and how very true. Enjoy the weekend.</p>
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		<title>By: Vivienne Quek</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/choosing-a-logo-designer/#comment-103921</link>
		<dc:creator>Vivienne Quek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 03:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just like to touch on one of your ten items ... communication. Designers who do not ask the right questions and expect the clients to furnish all relevant information might inconvenient or even jeopardize the creative process and alienating the client in the end. I have many designer-friends who lamented about the idiosyncrasies of their clients. Probing deeper, I realized that it is as simple as misalignment in communication. The most common being the designer didn't think to ask while the client didn't think and answer. Communication is never 1 way, it will forever be 2-way.

&lt;em&gt;Vivienne Quek's last blog post...&lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/versacreationsblog/~3/410982059/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Free is Not Free To Steal&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just like to touch on one of your ten items &#8230; communication. Designers who do not ask the right questions and expect the clients to furnish all relevant information might inconvenient or even jeopardize the creative process and alienating the client in the end. I have many designer-friends who lamented about the idiosyncrasies of their clients. Probing deeper, I realized that it is as simple as misalignment in communication. The most common being the designer didn&#8217;t think to ask while the client didn&#8217;t think and answer. Communication is never 1 way, it will forever be 2-way.</p>
<p><em>Vivienne Quek&#8217;s last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/versacreationsblog/~3/410982059/" rel="nofollow">Free is Not Free To Steal</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: David Airey</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/choosing-a-logo-designer/#comment-103891</link>
		<dc:creator>David Airey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 11:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amanda,

I'm completely behind your mention of poor time management being strongly linked to poor customer service. If a service provider doesn't have the time to deal with everything when they should, they either need to cut down the amount of work they take on, or hire help / outsource. Thanks very much for adding your thoughts to my post. You always make a lot of sense.

Jordan,

There'd be quite a lot of overlap between these 10 points, and those you should expect from a web designer. In fact, having just looked over the 10 titles, I'd say they're exactly the same. Wouldn't you?

As for my design beginnings, I started out in print design, before moving to logos. I've done some web work (a few clients and my own website) but find it more enjoyable working with brand identity.

Bruce,

Like you, I place a lot of emphasis on flexibility. You never know what might change half-way through a project, so it's important not to have everything set in stone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m completely behind your mention of poor time management being strongly linked to poor customer service. If a service provider doesn&#8217;t have the time to deal with everything when they should, they either need to cut down the amount of work they take on, or hire help / outsource. Thanks very much for adding your thoughts to my post. You always make a lot of sense.</p>
<p>Jordan,</p>
<p>There&#8217;d be quite a lot of overlap between these 10 points, and those you should expect from a web designer. In fact, having just looked over the 10 titles, I&#8217;d say they&#8217;re exactly the same. Wouldn&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>As for my design beginnings, I started out in print design, before moving to logos. I&#8217;ve done some web work (a few clients and my own website) but find it more enjoyable working with brand identity.</p>
<p>Bruce,</p>
<p>Like you, I place a lot of emphasis on flexibility. You never know what might change half-way through a project, so it&#8217;s important not to have everything set in stone.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Kersten</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/choosing-a-logo-designer/#comment-103826</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Kersten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 22:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with all of these points that you make although I think flexibility is right up towards the top.  When egos get in the way creativity and business suffer.  Flexibility and egotism do not go along.

&lt;em&gt;Bruce Kersten's last blog post...&lt;a href="http://www.savantcreative.com/blog/2008/10/i-didnt-think-i-needed-a-depre.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;I Didn't Think I Needed a Depression to Make My Point But...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with all of these points that you make although I think flexibility is right up towards the top.  When egos get in the way creativity and business suffer.  Flexibility and egotism do not go along.</p>
<p><em>Bruce Kersten&#8217;s last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://www.savantcreative.com/blog/2008/10/i-didnt-think-i-needed-a-depre.html" rel="nofollow">I Didn&#8217;t Think I Needed a Depression to Make My Point But&#8230;</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Jordan Joseph</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/choosing-a-logo-designer/#comment-103815</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 01:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, David.  It would be interesting to read 10 things to expect from a web designer, just to see the differences between the two in expectations.

Just curious - did you start in logo design, or were you once a full fledged web designer as well?  Do you do any web design/css/xhtml etc?

&lt;em&gt;Jordan Joseph's last blog post...&lt;a href="http://www.targetedexposure.com/living-portfolio/tools/inside-google-analytics" rel="nofollow"&gt;Understand your visitors with Analytics Software&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, David.  It would be interesting to read 10 things to expect from a web designer, just to see the differences between the two in expectations.</p>
<p>Just curious - did you start in logo design, or were you once a full fledged web designer as well?  Do you do any web design/css/xhtml etc?</p>
<p><em>Jordan Joseph&#8217;s last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://www.targetedexposure.com/living-portfolio/tools/inside-google-analytics" rel="nofollow">Understand your visitors with Analytics Software</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Amanda Vlahakis</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/choosing-a-logo-designer/#comment-103796</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda Vlahakis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 20:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a really good list, and I agree with the other commentators that many other businesses, not just designers, could do with reading it.

The areas that most businesses tend to fall down on is trust; failing to meeting promises and deadlines, and also customer service; failing to be sufficiently responsive to enquires and again ... not meeting promised timescales.

I feel that poor time management is the culprit for a lot of businesses offering an unnacceptable level of customer service, and that the two are strongly linked.

Personally I highly rate good customer service in any provider I select and will pay a lot more for a provider that can deliver high standards of customer care compared to other providers of a similar standard.

As designers our customers are exactly the same - if your service standards are much higher than others, there are a large percentage of customers that are willing to pay more for that.

Of course there are always the penny pinchers who just want a cheap provider, but you don't need to cater to them and personally I feel it's plain rude to offer bad service and constantly break service promises. My upbringing alone wouldn't allow me to do it!

&lt;em&gt;Amanda Vlahakis's last blog post...&lt;a href="http://trulyace.com/blog/design-projects/fashion-boutique-logo-design/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Fashion Boutique Logo Design&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a really good list, and I agree with the other commentators that many other businesses, not just designers, could do with reading it.</p>
<p>The areas that most businesses tend to fall down on is trust; failing to meeting promises and deadlines, and also customer service; failing to be sufficiently responsive to enquires and again &#8230; not meeting promised timescales.</p>
<p>I feel that poor time management is the culprit for a lot of businesses offering an unnacceptable level of customer service, and that the two are strongly linked.</p>
<p>Personally I highly rate good customer service in any provider I select and will pay a lot more for a provider that can deliver high standards of customer care compared to other providers of a similar standard.</p>
<p>As designers our customers are exactly the same - if your service standards are much higher than others, there are a large percentage of customers that are willing to pay more for that.</p>
<p>Of course there are always the penny pinchers who just want a cheap provider, but you don&#8217;t need to cater to them and personally I feel it&#8217;s plain rude to offer bad service and constantly break service promises. My upbringing alone wouldn&#8217;t allow me to do it!</p>
<p><em>Amanda Vlahakis&#8217;s last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://trulyace.com/blog/design-projects/fashion-boutique-logo-design/" rel="nofollow">Fashion Boutique Logo Design</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: David Airey</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/choosing-a-logo-designer/#comment-103792</link>
		<dc:creator>David Airey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 16:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathy,

&lt;blockquote&gt;This applies to anyone in business and not just designers.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There are indeed many traits that cross into all business practices, common courtesy being one of the most important.

Mali, Joshiah, Annette,

Thank you kindly for stopping by and taking time to comment.

Gareth,

Out of interest, what forum did you post your question on?

Neil,

Don't apologise for the long comment. I'm glad you contribute to the discussion. With all new clients I make them aware from the beginning that all design work may be presented in my portfolio. There have been a few cases were I've kept designs confidential, mainly when I'm used as a sub-contractor for a design agency, and as long as I'm aware from the beginning, that's fine.

So my advice is to ensure clients know from the outset that you reserve the right to showcase design work in your portfolio. I hope that helps.

Jackmo,

Best wishes for the new job you start on Monday. Here's hoping it works out brilliantly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathy,</p>
<blockquote><p>This applies to anyone in business and not just designers.</p></blockquote>
<p>There are indeed many traits that cross into all business practices, common courtesy being one of the most important.</p>
<p>Mali, Joshiah, Annette,</p>
<p>Thank you kindly for stopping by and taking time to comment.</p>
<p>Gareth,</p>
<p>Out of interest, what forum did you post your question on?</p>
<p>Neil,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t apologise for the long comment. I&#8217;m glad you contribute to the discussion. With all new clients I make them aware from the beginning that all design work may be presented in my portfolio. There have been a few cases were I&#8217;ve kept designs confidential, mainly when I&#8217;m used as a sub-contractor for a design agency, and as long as I&#8217;m aware from the beginning, that&#8217;s fine.</p>
<p>So my advice is to ensure clients know from the outset that you reserve the right to showcase design work in your portfolio. I hope that helps.</p>
<p>Jackmo,</p>
<p>Best wishes for the new job you start on Monday. Here&#8217;s hoping it works out brilliantly.</p>
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		<title>By: Annette</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/choosing-a-logo-designer/#comment-103777</link>
		<dc:creator>Annette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic post David, I think you have summed it up extremely well. I really enjoy reading your articles, and as a designer myself, gives great inspiration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic post David, I think you have summed it up extremely well. I really enjoy reading your articles, and as a designer myself, gives great inspiration.</p>
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		<title>By: Josiah Jost &#124; Siah Design</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/choosing-a-logo-designer/#comment-103772</link>
		<dc:creator>Josiah Jost &#124; Siah Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 17:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post David. A strong portfolio is definitely at the top of the list.

Really enjoy your blog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post David. A strong portfolio is definitely at the top of the list.</p>
<p>Really enjoy your blog!</p>
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		<title>By: jackmo</title>
		<link>http://www.davidairey.com/choosing-a-logo-designer/#comment-103753</link>
		<dc:creator>jackmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 05:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David,

I'm starting a job on monday as a web developer for a small company and while I freely admit that I'm a newbie I just wanted to let you know your blog has been a great source of inspiration.

cheers,
Jackmo

&lt;em&gt;jackmo's last blog post...&lt;a href="http://nubtub.com/nubtub-goes-dofollow-get-your-free-links-here/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Nubtub Goes Dofollow - Get Your Free Links Here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m starting a job on monday as a web developer for a small company and while I freely admit that I&#8217;m a newbie I just wanted to let you know your blog has been a great source of inspiration.</p>
<p>cheers,<br />
Jackmo</p>
<p><em>jackmo&#8217;s last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://nubtub.com/nubtub-goes-dofollow-get-your-free-links-here/" rel="nofollow">Nubtub Goes Dofollow - Get Your Free Links Here</a></em></p>
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